Tensions between China and its neighbors. ICS incursions are troubling. The US intelligence community comments on COVID 19 disinformation. The FBI tracks increased cybercrime activity during the pandemic. Johannes Ullrich explains Excel 4 Macro vulnerabilities. Our guest is Tina C. Williams-Koroma, from TCecure on the importance of strong, effective leadership in cybersecurity. And smile for the web-cam. Your boss may be watching. Johannes Ullrich from SANS on Excel 4 Macros, guest is Tina C. Williams-Koroma, from TCecure on leadership in cybersecurity and why it’s important.