In today's podcast we hear about Operation TradeSecret, which joins Operation Cloudhopper: both appear to be facets of a Chinese cyberespionage campaign. 20,000 loan applications are exposed by a third-party IT vendor. North Korea's Lazarus Group still has banks in its crosshairs. A study shows that mobile users are in a complicated relationship with their apps. US Congressional hearings into Russian influence operations and allegations of US surveillance continue. IBM’s Wendi Whitmore joins us from the 2017 Women in Cybersecurity Conference. Palo Alto Networks’ Rick Howard describes the cloud paradigm shift. And tomorrow is OpIsrael; Israeli enterprises say they're prepared.