In today's podcast we consider the way in which two potential state cyberattacks are now looking more like, respectively, an accident and a conventional crime. US Government officials double-down on warnings of Kaspersky connection to the Kremlin, and Australia's Government isn't buying Huawei's protests that it's not working for the PLA, either. Ropemaker attacks could inject malicious code into email after it's been delivered. Joe Carrigan from JHU on medical device security legislation. Christopher Pierson from Viewpost with observations from DEFCON. Some teasers on the Chertoff Group's Security Series.