In today’s podcast we hear about Marriott’s big breach. And Dunkin’ Donuts big breach. And, and, Urban Massage’s embarrassing exposure. Lessons are drawn about third-party risk, password reuse, and the importance of being less creepy to the people you do business with. Fancy Bear shows up to paw at the phish swimming in Germany’s government. And how much did SamSam really cost people? FBI? DoJ? Is it millions or billions? In either case you’re talking about real money. Robert M. Lee from Dragos discussing the notion of IoT hot water heaters taking down the power grid. Guest is Michelle Guel from Cisco, discussing smart cities and her perspective as a pioneering woman in the industry.