The BlueHat Podcast

The BlueHat Podcast

Since 2005, BlueHat has been where the security research community, and Microsoft, come together as peers; to debate, discuss, share, challenge, celebrate and learn. On The BlueHat Podcast, Microsoft and MSRC's Nic Fillingham and Wendy Zenone will host conversations with researchers and industry leaders, both inside and outside of Microsoft, working to secure the planet's technology and create a safer world for all.

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Ep 48 | 3.5.25

PoCs, Patching and Zero Day Quest Participation with Michael Gorelik

In this episode of The BlueHat Podcast, Nic and Wendy are joined by seasoned security researcher, and CTO of Morphisec, Michael Gorelik. Michael discusses his approach to security research, which often begins by exploring PoCs released by other researcher groups and continues through to the release and validation of – sometimes multiple rounds of – fixes. Michael also provides an overview of this BlueHat 2024 presentation from last October and discusses his upcoming participation in the Zero Day Quest Onsite Hacking Challenge.

Ep 47 | 2.19.25

Secret Herbs, Spices and Hacking Copilot Studio

In this episode of The BlueHat Podcast, host Nic Fillingham is joined by Scott Gorlick, Security Architect for Power Platform at Microsoft. Scott shares his unconventional journey into cybersecurity, from managing a KFC to driving big rigs before landing in tech. He dives into security research in Copilot Studio, discussing how AI models interact with security frameworks and how researchers can approach testing these systems. We also explore his recent training video on YouTube, which provides guidance for security researchers looking to engage with Microsoft’s bug bounty program.

Ep 46 | 2.5.25

Automating Dynamic Application Security Testing at Scale

In this episode of The BlueHat Podcast, hosts Nic Fillingham and Wendy Zenone are joined by Jason Geffner, Principal Security Architect at Microsoft, to discuss his groundbreaking work on scaling and automating Dynamic Application Security Testing (DAST). Following on from his BlueHat 2024 session, and outlined in this MSRC blog post, Jason explains the key differences between DAST, SAST, and IAST, and dives into the challenges of scaling DAST at Microsoft’s enterprise level, detailing how automation eliminates manual configuration and improves efficiency for web service testing.

Ep 45 | 1.22.25

Refactoring the Windows Kernel with Joe Bialek

In this episode of The BlueHat Podcast, hosts Nic Fillingham and Wendy Zenone are joined by BlueHat 2024 presenter Joe Bialek, a security engineer at Microsoft with over 13 years of experience. Joe shares his fascinating journey from intern to red team pioneer, recounting how he helped establish the Office 365 Red Team and pushed the boundaries of ethical hacking within Microsoft. He discusses his formative years building sneaky hacking tools, navigating the controversial beginnings of red teaming, and transitioning to the Windows Security Team to focus on low-level security and mitigations. Joe reflects on the challenges of internal hacking, the human reactions to being "hacked," and the value of strengthening defenses before external threats arise.

Ep 44 | 1.8.25

Defending Against NTLM Relay Attacks with Rohit Mothe and George Hughey

In this episode of The BlueHat Podcast, hosts Nic Fillingham and Wendy Zenone welcome back George Hughey and Rohit Mothe from the Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC) to discuss their latest blog post on mitigating NTLM relay attacks by default. George and Rohit explain their roles in vulnerability hunting and delve into NTLM, a 40-year-old authentication protocol, outlining its vulnerabilities and the risks of relay attacks, which function as a type of man-in-the-middle exploit. They highlight Microsoft's move to a "secure by default" approach, ensuring mitigations like channel binding are enabled automatically, providing stronger protections across services like Exchange, Active Directory Certificate Services (ADCS), and LDAP.

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The BlueHat Podcast
Host(s)
Nic Fillingham
Wendy Zenone
Nic Fillingham is a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft in the MSRC organization leading the BlueHat program. Originally from Australia, Nic has worked at Microsoft for almost 20 years across multiple continents, brands, and products. Nic created and co-hosted the Security Unlocked podcast and is passionate about promoting the work of security researchers and responders across the industry.
Wendy Zenone is a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft in the MSRC organization leading the STRIKE program. Wendy started her career through an all-women engineering boot camp after quitting her job while still having kids at home. She has worked at top tech companies like Facebook, Netflix, Salesforce, and now at Microsoft, focusing on various areas such as application security, bug bounty, corporate security, third-party risk management, privacy, and security training and awareness.
Schedule: Biweekly
Credits: Executive Producer is Bruce Bracken, Producer is Rob Petrillo. Production Manager is Max Solomon, and our Audio Engineer (and magician) is none other than The Great Rich Cerbini.
Creator: Microsoft
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