In today's podcast, we talk about hybrid warfare, with disinformation, cyber espionage, and spyware infestations—we also hear calls for norms of cyber conflict. BugDrop is active in Ukraine, and researchers see some cut-and-paste oddness slip from Fancy Bear's paws. A new X-Agent variant is out: this one infects Macs. Ransomware thumbs its nose at security products. A look at RSA trends as the conference closes. A conversation with City of San Diego CISO and author Gary Hayslip. Rick Howard from Palo Alto Networks on a new addition to the Cyber Canon that's all about DevOps. And where do we get one of those "Has no purchase authority" T-shirts?