In today's podcast, we hear that the Chinese espionage group Thrip is targeting satellite communications operators and others in the US and Southeast Asia. Zacinlo rootkit hides inside a bogus VPN. Developers are leaving Firebase apps insecure. The EU's controversial copyright regulation advances from committee. Kardon Loader malware is in beta. South Korean cryptocurrency exchange Bithumb is looted of more than $30 million. Anonymous is back with Opicarus2018. And the Bitcoin Baron goes to jail. Awais Rashid from Bristol University on why real-world experimentation is vital to cyber security. Guest is Dr. Chris Pierson from Binary Sun Cyber Risk Advisors, weighing in on the claims of sabotage at Tesla.