In today's podcast we hear about Hide-and-Seek, a hard to flush botnet. A phishing technique takes advantage of an email client's rendering of HTML. Facebook death threats in 2015 are said to have been the work of Fancy Bear, dressed up as the Cyber Caliphate. Nigeria's Yahoo boys are busier than ever. DHS wonders what it will take to get US Federal contractors to get rid of Kaspersky. Crooks turn from Tor to Telegram. Patch Tuesday notes. And Georgia's governor vetoes a controversial cybersecurity bill.